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Cadwell
02-14-2009, 01:19 PM
#1 It is actually written into rally regulations; "no Ford Escort shall have all its wheels pointing in the same direction at any point during a special stage"
http://www.photozo.com/album/data/9185/RPUK6222x800.jpg

#2 A little less commitment would have been advisable
http://www.photozo.com/album/data/9185/RPUK6119x800.jpg

#3 But for real sideways jollity you can't beat a Mark II
http://www.photozo.com/album/data/9185/RPUK6440x800.jpg

All taken using a Canon EOS 1D Mark III and Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8EX HSM things (mainly 'cos I couldn't be bothered carrying anything else into stage). Number 2 was from Serridge SS2 in the morning and the others from Serridge SS7 in the afternoon when it was getting quite dark.

tarotreader3
02-15-2009, 08:23 AM
those are some great shots! How close were you to your subject? Not as close as the terrified guy in the red hat, i hope.

Cadwell
02-15-2009, 11:29 AM
Reasonably close, 2 & 3 were shot at 150mm, #1 was a bit further away at 300mm. The closest a car got to me on this rally was about 4 feet I guess.

nevets2001uk
02-17-2009, 08:03 AM
Only 4ft! They weren't evening trying were they. :-D

Great shots Glenn and I wish I'd taken the gamble and come along. Next year for sure.

trevster
02-18-2009, 11:54 AM
Well Done,
Like these alot, I might be tempted to clone the red hat bloke out, I'm not sure if he causes a big enough distraction to warrant cloning.

nevets2001uk
By sheer coincidence, I was looking at your website a month or so ago. Nice Site !.
I liked your Eastbourne Pier series.
Although I'm from N.Ireland, I've lived in Eastbourne for 10 yrs. I've never made it down to the pier at dusk or dawn. Just haven't got the dedication :-)

Trev

sacstoy02gt
02-18-2009, 11:59 AM
Great shots Glenn!

Cadwell
02-18-2009, 01:30 PM
Thanks for the comments :-)


Well Done,
Like these alot, I might be tempted to clone the red hat bloke out, I'm not sure if he causes a big enough distraction to warrant cloning.


Cloning out (or adding in for that matter) is rather frowned upon in sports photography. It's consider a form of journalistic photography and "fakery" isn't really that welcome.

Leaving that aside I always consider the spectators as part of the ambience / scenery in rally shots.

trevster
02-18-2009, 01:49 PM
Leaving that aside I always consider the spectators as part of the ambience.

Hi Cadwell,
Yeah me too, I love those premiership football images were the subjects are nice and sharp, and the crowd and advertising hoardings etc. etc. are OOF, but still visible.

Looking at #2 again, I’m coming round to your way of thinking. The red hatted guy adds to the ambience rather than being a distraction.:-)


Cloning out (or adding in for that matter) is rather frowned upon in sports photography.
I didn’t know that, I’m learning new things everyday on this forum, that's why I'm here really.

Trev.

Cadwell
02-18-2009, 02:17 PM
Cloning out (or adding in for that matter) is rather frowned upon in sports photography.
I didn’t know that, I’m learning new things everyday on this forum, that's why I'm here really.


I'm not saying it doesn't happen, mind you, and there are differing views on it.

Some people would hold that it depends on the usage of the photo. That displaying on a photography forum would make it an "artwork" and therefore fair game for a bit of digital diddling whereas if it were in a rally magazine then the rules of "don't touch" would apply. Other people feel that you should NEVER modify a sports photo.

Amusingly, on a number of occasions images I've sold to rallying magazines have been digitally manipulated but by the magazines themselves, not by me. I take the attitude that once they've paid me for the images they can do pretty much what they like with them as long as they don't breach the usage terms.

trevster
02-18-2009, 03:02 PM
Mind If I Call you Glenn, it's more freindly than using someone's handle ?

I think adding things is bang out of order :-)

Cloning out maybe, in the right circumstances, say you had a fantastic shot and a gull flew into in the frame (very small and not obscuring anything important). I would clone then - or sensor dust, although I'm never shooting at narrow apertures on plain BGs much.

Trev

Cadwell
02-18-2009, 11:49 PM
Mind If I Call you Glenn, it's more freindly than using someone's handle ?


That's why it's in the signature :-)



I think adding things is bang out of order :-)


Me too, but one magazine added quite a bit of forest to the left hand side of one of my rally photos so that it would fit their page layout better. They did a pretty good job of it but even so...



Cloning out maybe, in the right circumstances, say you had a fantastic shot and a gull flew into in the frame (very small and not obscuring anything important). I would clone then - or sensor dust, although I'm never shooting at narrow apertures on plain BGs much.


I have no problem cloning out sensor dust. I'm not altering the reality of the scene in any way by doing that, I'm just correcting an error in the photographic process. In a sports photograph I'd probably leave your hypothetical gull in; were it a landscape shot or the like I'd probably take it out.

nevets2001uk
02-19-2009, 02:37 AM
nevets2001uk
By sheer coincidence, I was looking at your website a month or so ago. Nice Site !.
I liked your Eastbourne Pier series.
Although I'm from N.Ireland, I've lived in Eastbourne for 10 yrs. I've never made it down to the pier at dusk or dawn. Just haven't got the dedication :-)

Thanks very much. I'm pleased you liked it. I'm getting quite good at dragging myself out of bed before dawn. Once you're there it's great and I'm always glad I made the effort.