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I26
06-07-2006, 06:54 PM
Both are eye one display color calibrators. Whats the main difference and is the cheaper of the 2 worth it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=eye+one+display&Submit=ENE&Ntk=all&N=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

Raptor0310
06-07-2006, 08:51 PM
I say go for the more expensive one. It's gotta be better if its more expensive, right? :P

jdog
06-07-2006, 09:00 PM
Here is a link to one from B&H....for the Gretag-Macbeth-Eye-One Display 2. I know a couple of people who have this and are really happy with it. Hope this helps.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=353880&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

I26
06-08-2006, 03:11 AM
Actually the more expensive one is an Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Display 2. I looked at the images and it says it right on the back. Its $29 cheaper at newegg. I have heard they are the one to buy, but i still would like to know the main differences.

mchilt
06-08-2006, 08:53 AM
I26,

I manage this line of products including the Huey $79 http://www.pantone.com/products/products.asp?idArea=2&showNav=121&idProduct=103

The main difference between Display LT and Display 2 is within the software. Both devices are identical and will produce stellar results as far as calibrating the monitor.

The Display 2 offers mulitple monitor matching, monitor tracking and RGB Gain calibration.

The Display LT will calibrate to all of todays popular standards for Photo-editing and get you where you need to be.

What are you expectations from purchasing a calibration device? If you simply need to have a calibrated monitor and start getting your prints to match the Huey or Display LT will do the job. If you looking to do more like match multiple monitor and/or tweak your custom profiles then Display2 is the way to go.

Hope this helps,

Matt

I26
06-08-2006, 06:04 PM
Well I am looking to make my prints match more of what i see on my monitor. I would be using the device on a CRT monitor and on my laptop. I was thinking of buying the eye-one display 2 awhile now but I am also always looking to save a few bucks as well without buying something that will result with me being dissatisfied. Thanx for your insight.

Landis
06-13-2006, 05:07 PM
Sorry I have been so busy and didn't see this earlier. I think the difference between the two is in the software and what it will do. I read the descriptions and they are not clear on what software they use.

They appear to be the same calibrator made by Gretag-Macbeth-Eye-One Display 2, however it reads to me that you are getting different software than what comes with the original model, but I could be wrong. It's certainly worth a phone call to find out.

The Gretag-Macbeth-Eye-One Display 2 is a superb piece of equipment and will calibrate your monitor as good as what your monitor is capable of doing.

Coupled with proper Printer Profiles for your Printer/Ink/Paper, you should be able to match your monitor.

Personally, if those two don't use the Gretag-Macbeth solfware, I would get the one from B&H that Tracy mentioned. I have the Eye-One Match that also does printer profiles and it is worth every penny I paid for it.

I26
06-14-2006, 04:46 PM
SHeeeesh......its about time. I'm j/k. I was hoping you would reply. I am seriously thinking of the cheaper of LT. I can be the forum guinea or crash test dummy.

Landis
06-14-2006, 05:44 PM
OK, I read both in detail. The cheaper one comes with the LITE Software and the $199 comes with the regular software.

Go with the better version, I think. It uses the Eye One Match 3.0 Software, which is what mine uses. I wouldn't use the cheaper one.

I26
06-14-2006, 07:25 PM
Well i will consider it. I am out of town with work right now so I don't have to much free time. THanx for the info

Here is a review on the Huey, LT, and 2 models. Shows what each can perform.

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/eye-one_display_lt.html

Landis
06-14-2006, 08:01 PM
That gave a full comparison of it all. Given that data and the recommendation you use Gamma 2.2, anyway I would still recommend the Eye-One Display 2 because it does a more complete method of calibration. I would always want RGB Controls to be used to manually adjust your R G and B channels. I believe what he's talking about under the Eye-One Display 2, third row down is that it allows you to specify your Luminence you want, which the others won't do. That is very important to have control.

http://www.photozo.com/album/data/4029/Picture_2.jpg

This is what my Eye-One Match 3.0 looks like:

http://www.photozo.com/album/data/4029/Picture_1.jpg

I have only the license for Monitors and Printers, but the others are available for a fee.

I26
06-14-2006, 09:54 PM
I actually sat down and watched the tutorials on using the eye-on display 2 to calibrate your device and also the tutorial on achieving proper color from monitor and adobe and printer to actual soft and hard proofing. Great flash vids to watch as well.

I26
08-27-2006, 10:29 AM
Well I finally broke down and ordered this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16882685003

Will be here in about 3 days or so. I will let you know how it works. :-D

Landis
08-27-2006, 01:08 PM
Let us know what you think. It's the same Graytag Macbeth Eye One Display sensor, but I don't know if you get the same software that comes with the slightly more expensive non-Pantone model. Please let us know what softward comes with it.

I26
08-27-2006, 06:16 PM
I would believe its Eye-One Match 3.x. I was reading some reviews only about the Pantone version and went to their site and they have updates to Eye-One Match 3.6 or something like that. I'll let you know.

Landis
08-27-2006, 06:34 PM
Well, after reading your note, I went to my Greytagmacbeth.com and downloaded Eye-One Match 3.6.1, so I'm now up to date. On my LaCie 321 LCD monitor, it comes with its own software to calibrate it, so all I have to do is plug in my Eye One and run the LaCie / Eye One program and it calibrates it easier then by running the Greytag program, but I do use that for callibrating my #2 monitor and they come out looking just about equal.

As long as you get the Eye One software with your Pantone system, you are good to go.

I26
08-27-2006, 08:33 PM
I heard the LaCie has better software with it...true? While I have your attn....lol, my gloss optimizer is running on empty even though I turn it off in printer settings, why is that? Remember I have an R1800. Thanx for the help!!!

Landis
08-28-2006, 10:47 AM
Well, to answer your first question, I don't know if the LaCie software is better than the Eye One software. It's sure a lot easier to use, as you tell your monitor to callibrate, hook up the Eye One put it on the white circle, give the parameters you want to use and hit RUN and in a few minutes it's all done.

Re your R1800 Gloss optimizer, I'm afraid I know zilch about that. Best to contact Epson Support directly on that. I find them to be quite helpful whenever I have to call.

I26
08-30-2006, 08:41 PM
Well it came with Eye-One MAtch 3.x and i installed updates. It is hard to understand in advanced mode. I noticed RGB controls not optional in laptop mode unless I am missing something obvious. I did the Easy calibration mode but seen no before or after differences. I think I may need your help with this gadget. A tutorial on it would be something you might think about doing...thanx for the help!!

Landis
08-30-2006, 08:49 PM
The program really does just about everything automatically for you. If you are doing a laptop, just use EASY MODE, as you can't make RGB corrections on that anyway. I'm also not so sure the differences between my Apple G5 and a PC Mode program, but I am assuming they run about the same way.

If you have a monitor where you can manually adjust the R, G, and B values manually, you are better off doing the Advanced Mode and making those adjustments, so the monitor is adjusted and it's not the Video Board/computer that is making compensations for the monitor being out of wack.

If I did a tutorial on this, I could do it only for Apple's as that's all I have. I try very hard never to touch a PC.

I26
09-02-2006, 05:15 PM
I upgraded the software to 3.6.1 and it made a difference. I set up adobe cs as in your color management 101 and got good results. I plan on toying with it some more.

Landis
09-02-2006, 09:00 PM
I also downloaded 3.6.1 and it is a great improvement. I just did my son's Apple Powerbook and it looks the same as my desktop monitor with the same photo put up on both monitors.

I26
09-03-2006, 07:06 AM
I cannot get my CRT to color match. If i calibrate it just doesn't match the prints. If I redo the calibration my pics are heavily yellowed when opening them in cs. I am stumped. I would that every calibration would yield same results but the "after" always looks different onscreen.