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honglinf
05-09-2003, 04:15 PM
I may become one of you instead of a spectator!

I am consider buying a digital camera. I went to the store, asked about the Kodak EasyShare LS 443, was told that for the 16 MB internal memory, 7 photos can be taken at the best resolution (4.0 megapixel picture resolution). Is that so? Isn't that very inconvenient?

My question is: If I want a 5"*7" print of ordinary image quality, how many pictures can the camera take?

Thanks!

Honglin

Shouchen
05-09-2003, 05:24 PM
Honglin,

Good to hear you are going digital!! The person at the store was right that for a 16MB memory card, it won't take many photos for highest setting JPG. Actually I can hardly imagine anyone would use that 16MB card. So purchase a larger memory card is almost a must. I recommend you to get the a 256MB card or at least a 128MB card. You can find these cards at BestBuy, Fries, or WalMart.

For a 4MP camera, you can take pictures at the Large/Fine (the best JPG setting of the camera), and it'll give you very good quality at 8x10 prints.

The size of the files should be close to the following:

Resolution | Type | File Size | # of photos on 256 MB Disk
2272 x 1704, Super-Fine, 1,800 KB, 131
2272 x 1704, Fine JPEG, 1,000 KB, 232
1600 x 1200, Fine JPEG, 580 KB, 442
1024 x 768, Fine JPEG, 250 KB, 763
640 x 480, Fine JPEG, 120 KB, 1400
If you want the 5x7 prints, you probably need to go with at least 1600x1200.

The final word is that I am not a big fan of Kodak. For that price range, I suggest you look at the Canon S45. And here is a detailed Canon S45 Review (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s45.html).

Shouchen
05-10-2003, 12:29 AM
I found this memory card deal:

http://www.simpletech.com/estore/index.php?partNumber=STI-CF/256

For 256MB card, it costs you $60. Pretty good deal to me!

JohnCameron
05-10-2003, 02:29 AM
I will add my 2 cents here...I just picked up a Sandisk 256mb CF card at Costco for $56. That gets me a whopping 17 pix with my camera :lol:

Shouchen
05-10-2003, 10:27 AM
That's a good deal. I can't believe how much it dropped for the memory card! I think it costed me well over $100 when I bought it more than a year ago, different brand though.

Woww! Only 17 pictures on 256MB card?!! :o I read that for S.Fine TIFF 2560x1920, the file in your camera Minolta Dimage 7Hi, a 1GB Microdrive only holds 72 photos! The megapixel really makes huge difference! But, you will make great print when you get your Epson printer.... :-)

I guess you will need a digital album for any of your trip. What do you think of this:
Nixvue Digital Album (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/nixvue.html)?

I think it's a good deal to get compare the $/MB. That costs 1.9 cents per MB versus regular memory card of 20 cents per MB.

When can I finish the thinking of "this is going to be my last gear to add"?? :bang: :smash:

honglinf
05-10-2003, 05:20 PM
Thanks Shouchen and John! The first step is always hard. You've made me more confident going digital!



That's a good deal. I can't believe how much it dropped for the memory card! I think it costed me well over $100 when I bought it more than a year ago, different brand though.

Woww! Only 17 pictures on 256MB card?!! :o I read that for S.Fine TIFF 2560x1920, the file in your camera Minolta Dimage 7Hi, a 1GB Microdrive only holds 72 photos! The megapixel really makes huge difference! But, you will make great print when you get your Epson printer.... :-)

I guess you will need a digital album for any of your trip. What do you think of this:
Nixvue Digital Album (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/nixvue.html)?

I think it's a good deal to get compare the $/MB. That costs 1.9 cents per MB versus regular memory card of 20 cents per MB.

When can I finish the thinking of "this is going to be my last gear to add"?? :bang: :smash:

JohnCameron
05-11-2003, 02:55 AM
Hi Honglinf

I think you are right about that first step...but once you do it I think it will change forever the way you shoot photos. Being able to instantly get feedback on the images is not only satisfying, but you know you got the shots you want. I have been a hobby photographer for over 30 years now and have always enjoyed it. Now I am absolutly in love with the Zen of taking Pictures, and because I am shooting more my technique and approach to shots has improved. The learning curve is there, but once you get on with it you are back to the primary reason one has a camera in their hands....to take pictures :-D

Hey Shouchen

Yes sir that Nixvue unit looks very nice, and it looks like it would travel well too. Right now when we go out on a shoot I take my laptop with me along with a cardreader and a power inverter for the car and a trackball and a etc etc etc.. This works out pretty well but its not real convenient. It is though gonna have too work for a while though. My wife is pretty understanding of the great gear chase as she chases her far share too! She shoots 2 1/4 with her Mamiya 645 and there is always the odd lens or two that she has to have. :roll:
We have come to the conclusion that coming to an end in ones "need" for new gear is kinda like finding the end of the internet. :-)

BTW...the s. fine .tif files are about 14-15 MB. I could use .raw as they are about 9 MBs or so and squeeze a few more images onto the card but I just havent tried to yet. I guess its the post processing issues with .raw files that have put me off. Do you have any comments or ideas about .raw you want to share in the editing forum??? :?:

Shouchen
05-12-2003, 09:17 AM
John,

Here is my take on the raw conversion (http://www.photozo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=618).

ALwin
02-25-2009, 01:45 PM
Sorry for bringing this thread from the storage closet where it's been gathering dust since 2003, but I just wanted to say:

those old days when a good digital camera required only a 256mB memory card. ;-) Now we need something at least 10 times that size.

Ididntdoit8705
02-25-2009, 01:51 PM
It's amazing what 6 years can do for technology. I just ordered a 8GB C6 SDHC card for $16 including shipping. Haha... Honglin and Schouchen got ripped off. My how things have changed.

Shouchen
02-25-2009, 05:24 PM
It's amazing what 6 years can do for technology. I just ordered a 8GB C6 SDHC card for $16 including shipping. Haha... Honglin and Schouchen got ripped off. My how things have changed.

Wow, I didn't realize this. So the price has dropped to 1% compared to 6 years ago! You would have paid $1600 for a 8GB card back then if it is available! :shock:

JimL
02-25-2009, 10:42 PM
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-2gb-secure-digital-sd-card-sandisk-2gb-secure-digital-card/q/loc/101/201692678.html
$8.11 including shipping or $9.24 US if you buy directly from Buy.com
This is the largest size card for your camera that Kodak sells (although this is SanDisk one of the premier manufactures of flash memory cards not Kodak brand)
I don't believe that write speed will be an issue with your camera.
JimL

JimL

Tbel
02-25-2009, 11:01 PM
Jim, take a look at the date of the original post. This was recently revived to comment on the change in price.:-D lol lol lol

JimL
02-25-2009, 11:06 PM
DUH!!
JimL :-P

ALwin
02-26-2009, 01:28 AM
Jim, take a look at the date of the original post. This was recently revived to comment on the change in price.:-D lol lol lol

Price AND hardware specs/requirements.

If I went out now with a 256mB card on my D90, I'd fill it up within a few dozen shots at 12.3mp.

I wonder what size tB cards we would need in another 6 years.

JimL
02-26-2009, 10:44 AM
Jim, take a look at the date of the original post. This was recently revived to comment on the change in price.:-D lol lol lol

Price AND hardware specs/requirements.

If I went out now with a 256mB card on my D90, I'd fill it up within a few dozen shots at 12.3mp.

I wonder what size tB cards we would need in another 6 years.

I just saw where they are developing a 2 TB SD card as a replacement for computer hard drives. Simply amazing!
JimL

ALwin
02-26-2009, 11:00 AM
Jim, take a look at the date of the original post. This was recently revived to comment on the change in price.:-D lol lol lol

Price AND hardware specs/requirements.

If I went out now with a 256mB card on my D90, I'd fill it up within a few dozen shots at 12.3mp.

I wonder what size tB cards we would need in another 6 years.

I just saw where they are developing a 2 TB SD card as a replacement for computer hard drives. Simply amazing!
JimL

I just hope the price would become very low for that 2tb card in 6 years, even now a 64GB card can cost from 200 for low performance models to thousands for hi-performance ones. And SSD drives are even worse in price.

ALCAN
02-26-2009, 07:52 PM
the price will drop it always does